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I can't promise that any of this will make sense, my journeys are always so clear and 'simple' to me until I start describing them. erm.


About a month ago, I realised I had someone else's soul part attached to me. Clinging to me kind of like an adorable little limpet. When I disengaged her, gently, she expressed misgivings about going back to where she belonged, and kept telilng me that she wanted to stay with me.

The last month, on and off, I've been having dialogues with this kid, who calls herself Button Princess (which comes from being 'cute as a button,' which is really cute). In a way, she still wants to cling, and so most of our visits are me trying to teach her the spiritual skills necessary to stick around someone who doesn't really want you or know what to do with you, until they're ready to want you / know what to do with you. It's all about resilience. And there's been a lot of sharing. About how I know I have my own 'Button Princess' out there somewhere who I'm also kind of scared of, etc.

Anyway, today was yet another journey. We sat at my 'beach-house' or starting place by the sea, with the forest behind us, and we talked about how yellow icing on cupcakes was better than pink icing (I offered her pink, she wanted yellow). About how she spent a lot of her time in the otherworlds, away from her main 'person', walking along the beach and looking for seashells with holes in them to make into necklaces.

I talked about the power of telling stories, and made up a story about the Button Princess that had a happy ending. So Button Princess asked me to make up a story for myself and I was like 'well, what name should I have?' And she wanted to call me mother Raven, uh oh, no, I can't have her clinging to me again. So I said 'how about Aunty Raven?' She liked that, so I'm now Aunty Raven. I might keep that for future soul parts that come to visit me, lol.

I told a story about Aunty Raven, and as I was telling the story to Button Princess (who was closing her eyes and falling asleep), Oooshala came walking out of the sea towards us, and Aka Oslo came flying into my starting place as an eagle (who changed into Aka Oslo soon afterwards) and they both listened to me tell my story. It didn't have a proper ending. It ended with Aunty Raven sitting next to Button Princess, listening to the sound of the sea waves and the breezes in the leaves of the forest behind her, content. And for the first time in a while, I felt kind of content. So I just stayed there.

Eventually I told Button Princess that she needed to go 'back' and keep trying, but until she was fully integrated / accepted, she could come visit me for cupcakes with yellow icing. I also taught Button Princess some skills in creating her own otherworld 'safe place' until she was integrated, so that she did have somewhere to go where she might feel wanted. So Button Princess walked off, super resilient.

I ended up falling into a kind of semi-awake doze. I blame Aka Oslo, who walked towards me with a kind of strange look in his eyes. He sat next to me and we talked a bit (or he talked, and I listened) about how I still keep falling asleep in the otherworlds. He came and carried me into the glass and wood 'beach-house,' remarked on how spartan and unlived in it is (I never go in there, even though I built it for me to go in there) and then placed me on a large bed on the top storey. My other spirit helpers - Sch'iaskala, Ehrembi, Biaimundi, Oooshala were also there.

And then what followed was quite strange. Well, you know, stranger. I've suspected for a little while that two different people have been directing some malicious mojo my way. One without realising, the other intentionally. Hence wearing bindrunes on my body right now. Aka Oslo placed his hand over my eyes once, just waved it over, and suddenly I saw these two black worm/tentacle things coming out of my heart. One around my right shoulder, the other at the bottom of my ribcage on the left-hand side. I put my hands down to pull them out and he said 'no, wait, don't touch it with any more of your body. I'll show you what to do.' He called on Oooshala, the water horse, who still had essentially a pannier of 'anger jars' all over his body.

Aka Oslo took one of the jars with 'white' anger in it. And then he opened it and poured a little bit onto the first black worm/tentacle/malicious energy thing. It recoiled immediately, I felt something 'lift' out of my shoulder. Aka Oslo added more of the energy to it and it withdrew out of the house completely. Hopefully it 'returned to sender.' Any of the white energy liquid anger stuff (the technical name, of course) that fell onto me, didn't hurt. Nifty. :)

He used two bottles of the 'red' anger for the second worm/tentacle thingie, though he said he would have preferred green (they're the ones that Baba Yaga took the last time I saw her). He used one of red, and it recoiled, but stayed near my body. Aka Oslo gave me the second jar and told me that when it looked for another place to 'join', to position the jar so that it went into the jar. I did that (it had aimed for my heart again), and when it sunk itself into the jar, it let loose a scream of frustration and pain, recoiled and disappeared.

'So I'm all clean?' And Aka Oslo barked a short bark of laughter and shook his head. He essentially said that I was clean of that, but that we had a lot more work to do, and it would take a long long time. Boy and howdy, yeah, colour me surprised.

Ten minutes later I was drowsy. Aka Oslo said 'you have a visitor.' I was surprised when a great big, sand coloured tiger jumped onto the bed and put his head on my foot and just gazed at me peacefully and sleepily. And then I fell asleep, in the Otherworlds, as usual... *sigh*

When I woke up Moet was on the bed, with his head on my foot. Interesting.


It makes me - at times like this - profoundly grateful that I have an 'entourage' of spirit helpers who all have different purposes and functions. Sch'iaskala was the one who opened the door for Aka Oslo. Ehrembi stayed nearby, grounded, calm and chuckling gently to all of us. Biaimundi was a fierce, protective presence who wouldn't allow anything else into the house. Aka Oslo knows the 'handywork', and Oooshala carries the energy needed to add some oomph to rituals and such.

Date: 2009-03-13 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupabitch.livejournal.com
So how do you know when a soul part is yours, and when it isn't?

Date: 2009-03-13 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
So how do you know when a soul part is yours, and when it isn't?

I don't know, I just kind of know... like, you know that Taylor isn't a part of you because he's a separate person. There's a fundamentally different energy signature going on, and it wouldn't matter what 'part' of him it was, or how much it tried to be like you, it will still always be Taylor and Taylor's energy. You know? Does that make any sense?

In the Otherworlds though, I get my spirit helpers to suss out any soul parts that come to visit me - because some do feel really alien even though they're 'me.'

Do you think you'd be able to tell your Animal Father no matter what guise he appeared in?

Date: 2009-03-13 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupabitch.livejournal.com
Hmm. That makes complete sense, how you put it. Thank you for the food for thought, as always!

Date: 2009-03-13 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
In all honesty, I would be delighted to have a part like Button Princess, and I told her that today. That I hope I have someone like her out there.

Journeying is strange. And yeah, it could all be delusion, but it generally makes me feel better on some level to do it, so I'll keep doing it. :)

Date: 2009-03-13 07:45 am (UTC)
ext_40234: (Crow)
From: [identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com
I love when you write about your journeys.

I have a soul part that's not mine, but it knows it's not wanted and digs in like a parasite. For a while I was convinced my ex was 'attacking me' or some shit, but then I realized I just had a cling on. It's my exes, and it won't leave, and I have no idea how to make it leave short of digging around in there like a blind idiot.

Your Button Princess sounds nicer. xD

Date: 2009-03-13 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
The Button Princess didn't originally appear as a small girl until I gently tried to disengage her and showed her some compassion.

Most people-parts that stick to you respond to compassion, coaxing and a sort of 'no pressure to leave but I'd like to open up a dialogue' with you approach.

I mean if the part is going to try and stick around regardless, and digging around isn't working, it might be worth trying a gentler approach - even just for a little while - and see what happens.

Date: 2009-03-13 07:58 am (UTC)
ext_40234: ([DN] Dusting)
From: [identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com
I could try that, but I'm kind of afraid of giving it any leeway at all. My ex is manipulative as hell, particularly this piece, and doesn't exactly have, uh, my best interests in heart. It's just....sick is the only word I have for it, and not in a way I feel can be fixed.

Not to mention I'll have to wait until I finish changing medication before I feel safe trying anything. I can't journey at the moment, I just lucid dream really well. It took over fifty dreams where I had an 'intrusion' of something definitely not a part of me, his energy specifically, take place, which almost always shatters the continuity of the dream in question. It gets odd and complicated, and I normally end up yelling at him to get the fuck out of my dreams.

Date: 2009-03-13 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Any piece that is clinging onto you, is doing so because of immense vulnerability - underneath the malice, or manipulations, or meanness. You may not be able to engage with that part of its nature, but it's possible to make very difficult and hard decisions, even ones that cause pain and/or disengagement, from a compassionate place.

Almost like the place you have to be in when you put a pet down. You know it's the right thing, but it's done from a place of peace and compassion.

It might also be worth looking at what you're going to replace that part with - since it may be attaching to you due to spaces in your own spirit. Is there are a part of you clinging onto him?

It's frustrating when medications make it so that you can't journey. Effexor did that for me. :(

Date: 2009-03-13 08:12 am (UTC)
ext_40234: (Crow)
From: [identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com
Shit, it did? That's what they're moving me onto now. They tried to take me off lexapro, but that didn't work out well, so now I'm on both.

That makes a lot of sense, considering the situation and such. I could do it if I was stable enough. That might take a few months the way things are going now.

Oh yeah, I probably have a good chunk stuck to him too.

Date: 2009-03-13 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Effexor may work differently for you - but it kind of shut me down creatively and spiritually for over a year. I still preferred it more than anything else I was ever put on, but meh, I don't have luck with any of the medications I've tried.

*hugs*

Date: 2009-03-13 08:28 am (UTC)
ext_40234: ([Dr. Horrible] fingers crossed)
From: [identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com
Ugh, I'm sorry. Luckily my doctor will take me off the stuff no problem if I end up hating it. Lexapro alone is enough to keep me sane, albeit depressed. I did have a random urge to draw the other day though, and I haven't had that in a year, so I'm hopeful.

♥ You're like an awesome otherworldly crime-fighting guru. =3

Date: 2009-03-13 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grondfic.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing this. It's come at a time when I can really hear what you're saying (and doing), at a juncture when I really need the reminder.

Thanks.

Date: 2009-03-13 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
*hugs*
Thank you for reading. :)

Date: 2009-03-13 08:48 am (UTC)
ext_203655: (Default)
From: [identity profile] bewylderbeast.livejournal.com
Thank you for writing your journeys down, they are always a joy to read. Button Princess sounds really nice, and I hope she finds her place in the world.

Date: 2009-03-13 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I hope she finds her place in the world.

I think, in a way, she already has. It's just about that 'place' accepting her now. She's pretty spunky though, so I see no problems.

Date: 2009-03-13 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dibeartach.livejournal.com
Ooooo, hey, those tentacle things sound exactly like vampiric tendrils. You don't know any Súmaire besides me, do you? Some less scrupulous, perhaps? Shielding apparently helps keep curious tendrils away. Especially helpful if you know the people directing them, unconsciously or malignly.

xoxox

Date: 2009-03-13 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
You don't know any Súmaire besides me, do you? Some less scrupulous, perhaps?

Yes, absolutely I do, and one of the tentacles was from that person. That was the 'non-aware' one. The second one was a malicious feed, and I don't think they were Súmaire. But maybe... I've never thought that they might have that component to them before.

I prefer not to shield, not in terms of 'barriers of energy' anyway, but the bindrune seems to be keeping things like this at bay so I might keep using that. Boosting the Algiz/protection rune with two Sowelus has been doing very nicely.

Date: 2009-03-13 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Súmaire is the Gaelic word for vampire (I think it can also allude to dragons too), and in this case it covers a psychic vampire / psivamp.
Edited Date: 2009-03-13 03:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-13 08:18 pm (UTC)
ext_58493: (DL white dragon)
From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
you would tell me if I visited inappropriately yes? I don't know if I can, I used to.

I'd love to again, I love traveling in the 'astral' (only name I have for the otherworlds, besides that) and miss it fiercely.

Last time I tried a journey (not your kind of journey, hard to explain) I think I got as far as Hawai'i. I think.

still working on a lot of things.

Date: 2009-03-13 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
you would tell me if I visited inappropriately yes?

Actually not always, because a lot of the time I don't mind, and I don't want to freak other people out. I only say if my spirit helpers and I feel like it's a good move. And besides, it's not always inappropriate if you're doing it to give or receive help. :)

For example, I believe I know who 'Button Princess' belongs to, but at Button Princess' request, and going on what my spirit helpers have said, I'm not going to reveal her identity to who she belongs to.

Oooo Hawai'i, I imagine that would be an awesome place to visit in a journey-state. Was it awesome? :)

Date: 2009-03-14 02:50 am (UTC)
ext_58493: (Default)
From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
hm. I just wouldn't want to be hurtful in any way, and the idea that part of me could do so bothers me.

I do understand that it wouldn't necessarily be helpful to tell a person that they have random dark bits free-floating; or soul bits wandering around the Otherworld...

All I remember of Hawai'i is hibiscus :) weird, huh? one of these days, my lucid dreaming will get better.

Date: 2009-03-14 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
You've never been hurtful in any way to me. *snugs* :)

Date: 2009-03-14 02:57 am (UTC)
ext_58493: (Default)
From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
thank you for telling me :)

*snugs* her pia.

Date: 2009-03-13 10:51 am (UTC)
witchchild: (Peacock as totem)
From: [personal profile] witchchild
Things like this are why you should be writing. (someday, anyway.) Usually when soul parts from others are discussed, it's never in this much detail and usually the parts are not so well-defined.

I can't wait for my classes to be done so I can have the energy to spare for regular trance work again.

Date: 2009-03-13 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Usually when soul parts from others are discussed, it's never in this much detail and usually the parts are not so well-defined.

For me, a lot of my interactions with soul parts are much simpler. In fact, I have one friend/semi-occasional-client who has a part that is just a blue egg that needs incubating. We put it in front of a heat lamp, and it's doing just fine.

And then of course there are situations like this. I want to write about this kind of stuff more often, even though I do have the kneejerk fear of people telling me 'it's wrong!', these days it's a lot easier to overcome that when I make my own peace by knowing it might be delusion, but that it works for me anyway. It's a lot easier to share this stuff these days, but the fear still persists.

I guess no one likes to be persecuted for what they believe.

Date: 2009-03-13 03:04 pm (UTC)
witchchild: (Unicorn totem)
From: [personal profile] witchchild
I hate that it happens, but fear of being wrong holds me back from doing a lot of trance-type Work. It's sad and means other peoples' opinions hold too much sway, but it's there. :/

Date: 2009-03-13 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Hopefully, over time, your fear of other people's reactions will become less strong. As more and more people share (and you realise how crazy we all are), it will become easier to see that this stuff - no matter how crazy - CAN work, and that it's okay to be 'different.'

Date: 2009-03-13 03:32 pm (UTC)
witchchild: (Jackal totem)
From: [personal profile] witchchild
Heh, you'd think afte 5 years of doing this it wouldn't be such a problem. (especially with what I don't share anyway.) I may do work to shake off that fear, sounds like a good plan.

Date: 2009-03-13 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I hope so, I'm already interested to hear in other's experiences. Mostly because it adds to a collective unconscious and 'map' of experiences. Even if mine are radically different to yours, it may open me up to new places and thoughts (and vice versa, with my stuff). :)

Date: 2009-03-13 03:52 pm (UTC)
witchchild: (Jackal totem)
From: [personal profile] witchchild
I haven't posted much for a while, but if you're willing, you can check older stuff on my woo woo tag.

Date: 2009-03-13 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liondaughter.livejournal.com
And then of course there are situations like this. I want to write about this kind of stuff more often, even though I do have the kneejerk fear of people telling me 'it's wrong!', these days it's a lot easier to overcome that when I make my own peace by knowing it might be delusion, but that it works for me anyway.

That's what I tell myself too. Especially about things like what happened with my client on Tuesday. I am NOT advertising that service on my webpage. ;)

Date: 2009-03-13 08:21 pm (UTC)
ext_58493: (Default)
From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
no, no one likes being persecuted - but I too enjoy these entries. Makes me feel like I'm not the only weirdo out there, and that I can come back to this.

Date: 2009-03-13 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Makes me feel like I'm not the only weirdo out there, and that I can come back to this.

I have faith that you can come back to this. :)

Date: 2009-03-14 02:56 am (UTC)
ext_58493: (Default)
From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
the egg thing reminds me of a dragon funny - my other heart sister (she's on my journal, and on Welshwmn's - serena321)'s ex husband (well, separated...#2) was gifted with an egg to raise, and his dragon (not the egg) ended up staying with me after I kicked him out!

I think the egg is here too...lost track of that.


and that's our non sequitur for the night...

Date: 2009-03-13 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathofone.livejournal.com
I love your journeys. This one was so peaceful. :)

Date: 2009-03-13 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
It was pretty peaceful. It had it's disturbing moments, but overall it's an improvement on 'my spirit helpers are going to kill me' journeys. Heh.

Date: 2009-03-13 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] white9-fox.livejournal.com
Miyazaki needs to do a movie on your journeys someday. They'd fit right in with the rest of his famous films.

I couldn't help but laugh at the button princess part. I got this image of a cute, round little shirley temple girl. And the song in my head, of course.

And it's true, all cats think they're tigers XD

Date: 2009-03-13 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makhsihed.livejournal.com
Miyazaki needs to do a movie on your journeys someday. They'd fit right in with the rest of his famous films.

Ah, you're right! The feel of the journey-descriptions was familiar somehow, and that's exactly it--Miyazaki's stuff has a very similar quality. Neat. :>

Date: 2009-03-13 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
You know it's weird, but she wasn't really like that - Shirley-Templesque. But I can see why you thought it, it's an odd name, that's for sure.

And it's true, all cats think they're tigers

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Heh.

Date: 2009-03-13 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sotepetsenu.livejournal.com
Aw jesus, I had an image of myself when you said button Princess. I have relatives who tell me I insisted on being called a Princess as a child, and I collect buttons, and was very commonly referred to as 'cute as a button' when I was a child. Yeeesh.

I wish I could astral travel/journey. I never get far. I start to 'disengage' from my body, and then it's like a whoosh and I jerk awake. I wonder if I could try to do something like a hypnosis self-induction into properly astral travelling. It's something I do pretty often at night when going into a 'go-to-sleep meditation', I should try changing some wording and make it generically astral travel.

Date: 2009-03-13 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
It wouldn't surprise me at all if a few people had their own version of a Button Princess. :) Do you still have the buttons you used to collect?

Sometimes the jerking awake can be that your body doesn't want you to go. If that's happening, take your body 'with' you by involving it more actively in the process.

I know that sounds strange, but if you get your heartbeat up and blood pumping through something like actively drumming, you might have more success because you're not leaving your body behind - it is integral to the success of the journeying.

Date: 2009-03-14 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sotepetsenu.livejournal.com
I do still have them, I think. They were in these kinda rattan baskets with my sewing stuff, which all got piled into boxes and big bins... When I was tired and pissed off at it all, I did a lot of cleaning/throwing out when I was unpacking last March.... I hope I didn't throw mah buttons out. Very usefull, buttons. I'm doing books and office supply stuff right now, but when I'm done unpacking those, I'll get to the craft stuff and try to find mah buttons.

My mom bought a drumming kit which was kinda neat, but never used it, and I thought I never used it, so I didn't take it with me... 6(?) moves ago. Ok super serious, I've have enough moving plzkthx. There's so much more I need to learn about journeying/astral travel, and I think I'd like to more lean on journeying so that there's some usefulness/purpose of the experience other than "Oh wheeee I'm having an OOBE wooooo."

Date: 2009-03-14 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azhure.livejournal.com
I kind of want to cuddle the Button Princess :)

I love it when you share your journeys.

Date: 2009-03-14 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunar-amaranth.livejournal.com
Honestly, when you first used the term "Button Princess", I was picturing something like in the movie Coraline. Like, literally a girl with buttons for eyes. Thankfully the Button Princess you met wasn't that creepy.

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