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[livejournal.com profile] dibeartach asked me how I cast runes (as opposed to drawing them like tarot cards) and I thought I'd post about it. And take pictures! :)



Firstly, I can't draw my runes like tarot cards, because they are unevenly shaped (being made from hand-picked river rocks that I chose less over shape and more over their 'feel'). Also because I 'know' them. I know that the little hard one that's a bit colder than the rest is Algiz, and I know that the flat large one that has a nice feel to it is Hagalaz. Drawing was always going to be useless for me.

1. Get a bag to put your runes in

As you can tell from my decrepit purple and gold drawstring bag, what the bag looks like doesn't matter. Hell, if you want, you can use a paper bag. To prove that I do actually keep my runes in this evil looking bag, here's some thoughtfully spilled out onto the table runner for you.

Mostly, the bag gives you something to hold and meditate on before a rune casting. A few people say you need to use quite durable paint if you're putting your runes in a bag, but... I used plain white acrylic (and some blood), and no lacquer and mine have been fine for years.





2. Make a rune mat

Here's my decrepit rune mat. Heh. I've been using this for so long that every time I get it out I find myself thinking 'I really need to make a new one.' It's basically white canvas-cloth. The dimensions are about 45 x 45 centimetres. Find a conversion chart if you don't know what that means.

I've based this design off Kenneth Meadows rune mat (shhh!), because it's convenient. My new rune mat will have a slightly different design, but this one works for me. Centre circle is past/Wyrd, middle is the present, outer is the future, and the outer 'space' just indicates 'influences.' Also, the four lines radiating out from the circle demarcate the four basic directions - North, East, South and West.

You can make your rune mat however you want. But it is important to have one to delineate the difference between 'rune casting' and 'the floor.'





3. Cast your runes!

Grab your decrepit bag of runes. Grab your rune mat. Set yourself up. It helps to cast on a flat surface because if you cast on a sloping one, you may find all your runes make an escape attempt and roll away from you. And of course, if you cast on a bumpy one, all the runes may clump together and not give you an accurate casting.

I like to light a candle, give offerings to Odin in the form of water (and often blood), and then I like to meditate in silence on what issues in my life are at the forefront of my mind; or if I'm doing a rune casting for someone else, I will meditate on that person and any directions they've given me. I do this with my eyes closed.

Now, hold the bag (closed) about 15/20 centimetres above your rune mat (again, get a conversion table) and then let the bag open and the runes fall out. You can experiment with how far away you want to drop your runes. If you drop them too far, most won't land on the mat, and will skitter away and land on the floor. If you drop too closely, you end up with a clump. There's an art to getting the distance right, that art is called 'practice.'

If you get it right, you should end up with a fairly balanced casting, like this:





4. Remove all runes that are upside down or on the floor

As the bolded part says, remove all the runes that are either face down, or on the floor. Put them back in the bag, and if you like, say 'thank you,' (I always do).

Then, like magic, you will be left with about 5-14 runes facing up. If you are left with any more than that, or any less than that, check out your casting methods. This one is quite an average casting for me, about 9 runes.





5. Reading them

The joy of casting is that it's infinitely more complex (that's not a joy sometimes) than standard 'drawing' where you place the rune down and then read about it or think about it. That can be helpful, but a casting is better for long-term information, complex information, or just if you want a good, solid response from your runes.

It's like... a one tarot draw vs. a full Celtic Cross. The latter is just going to be a little bit more meaningful than the former because of the complexity of the interplay of the cards.

The reason being that where a rune falls, is just as important as the rune itself. Likewise if there are any runes touching, their interplay is more important to understand or interpret, than the runes on their own. Because you're not dealing with a rune on its own anymore, but two energies playing closely together.

Well, I could go into more detail, but I think this describes how to do a casting and if I go into how to read a casting I'll be here all day.

But maybe next time I'll do a 'how to read a casting,' would anyone be interested? There will be pictures! :D
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Date: 2008-05-28 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earthguardian.livejournal.com
this is pretty kickass. i too have runes, but no rune map o.o'' and have ended up using a typically flat surface.

i hand made my rune too, but from clay, and they're decent enough i suppose. but, i guess, my question is: i've been using runes for a year or two (on and off) and i still have a lot of difficulty with meanings, moreso when done in a casting. any idea how to fix that? i have the same problem with my tarot.

also, YES. i would love to learn how you read a casting (as it may answer my aforementioned question.)

:3

Date: 2008-05-29 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Rune mats are hell easy to make, you could even make one on the back of an old, plain shirt if you wanted to. All you need is a permanent black marker. Heh.

With runes, it can be difficult because there's no pictures to meditate on with them, only staves. I got over my unfamiliarity with them in a particularly stubborn way, I stuck with one and one only for a month. That's a lot of learning - two years in all - and I don't know if anyone else is insane enough to do that.

So maybe one a week? Look at it, look up it's meanings, meditate on it, and go from there. It could help.

Date: 2008-05-28 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azhure.livejournal.com
You're making me want to get my runes out. It's been years since I've read them, though, and I've well forgotten how to. Maybe I need to hunt down a good book on interpreting them - any recommendations?

Date: 2008-05-28 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Probably The Runes Workbook by Leon D. Wild, it was also published quite recently.

But I have my own rune interpretations here which you're welcome to print out:

http://www.wildspeak.com/vilturj/other.html

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Date: 2008-05-28 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarletwildfire.livejournal.com
I've had a set of runes for a few years. They were gifted to me, and I've never quite known what to do with them.

Thank you for this! And if you want to do a how to read runes primer... I'm all about that too :)

Date: 2008-05-29 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Heh, I've got my rune files up on the website which you're welcome to use if you like.

A how to read a casting would be fun, I think. I've been thinking about it since yesterday.

Date: 2008-05-28 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] end-of-the-mind.livejournal.com
I'd be extremely interested! I dabbled in researching the runes back mumblemumble years ago, but it never really played out. The texts were dry and difficult to fathom.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Yeah rune texts can be like that. A really accessible and also fairly short rune text that isn't full of itself is The Runes Workbook by Leon D. Wild; it's really good and quite recently written.

Runes difficult???

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Date: 2008-05-29 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Yayness! :D

Date: 2008-05-28 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erynn999.livejournal.com
I wrote quite a bit about reading techniques for random castings in my ogam book. I like that method best unless I'm doing a quickie 15 minute reading for somebody.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Awesome, I was recommending your book on a forum the other day, which... made me want to buy it. *blush* I've never read ogam and it doesn't really pull me, but I have a feeling I'd get interested in it more if I read your book.

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Date: 2008-05-28 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zuki-san.livejournal.com
So. Very. Much. Interested!

I'd love to know a little bit more about how the process works.

I tried doing a rune casting for a friend once and it turned out okay...but I was working off of half-remembered everythings at the time. Even if your method turns out not to be my method, I'd love to know, pictures and all!

(Heh, I've still got the sketch of her reading around here somewhere...I could go back and take another look at it)

Date: 2008-05-29 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I'm sure your casting method is awesome though, people come to their own ways of doing things and they're just the right way that they should be doing it. :D

Date: 2008-05-28 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-falki.livejournal.com
I really like the idea of saying thank you to those runes which end up face down or on the floor. I think I'll do that from now on. :-)

Date: 2008-05-29 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I do it with tarot cards too. I think it started back... a few years ago with tarot, when I realised that if some cards are sending out an energy to be picked; then other cards must be sending out the opposite, they participate just as much. Does that sound stupid?

I just like saying thank you to my divination mediums.

Date: 2008-05-28 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupabitch.livejournal.com
Heh--I still have to practice casting bones without having them all automatically end up in a little pile in the center of the casting skin.

Thank you for the info-post! it's always neat seeing how other people do things.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I've never used casting bones before, I reckon it'd take a fair knack to know how to use them too. :)

Date: 2008-05-28 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonhost.livejournal.com
This was a very interesting read, thank you. I've never been interested in the hole 'drawing the runes' theory myself, which is why I usually have used my tarot cards instead of them. However, this notion seems like it would suit me much better, and I may have to try this out. :)

Date: 2008-05-28 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
It's also really easy to cast, once you know how and make it work for you, it is much faster than picking out individual tarot cards (which I also enjoy doing). The fastest part of a rune casting is the casting itself. Heh.

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Date: 2008-05-28 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukikokoro.livejournal.com
I would really love to read a "How to Read a Casting" article by you :3 This was the most clear-cut explanation on how to cast runes I've ever read. The pictures help a lot.

I only have one question: when you are about to open the bag above the mat, should it be in/close to the center?

Date: 2008-05-28 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Yeah I position mine directly over the inner circle. :)

And thank you! It always surprises me that there isn't more information about casting, because it's dead easy... but maybe people just don't know how / and books don't publish pictures about it. But hehehe, I had so much fun taking the pictures. Lol. I don't care if it highlights how 'non-fancy' my materials are.

I'd like to break down a 'how to read a casting' one, it'd need to be multiple entries though I think. Reading can be quite complex.

Date: 2008-05-28 06:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] firehauke.livejournal.com
this is cool. Is this Futhark? I do prison outreach and one of the religious items the inmates are allowed is the Elder Futhark, and I would love some basic reading information with picture guide to put along with them.

Date: 2008-05-28 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Yup this is Futhark, I read with an Uthark (Fehu is the 24th rune for me), but yeah it's the same 24 runes. :) If you want to use this as a model or use it in general, go ahead. It's pretty basic to cast, and runes are so convenient because they don't need to be highly pictorial like tarot. :D

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Date: 2008-05-28 06:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bewylderbeast.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing. I've always been curious about how runes are cast, but whenever I ask I'm fobbed off with mystical-joo joo-only-you-know-how nonsense.

^_^

Date: 2008-05-29 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I've always been curious about how runes are cast, but whenever I ask I'm fobbed off with mystical-joo joo-only-you-know-how nonsense.

I hate that. To me it indicates a few things:

1. 'I don't actually know.'
2. 'I know, but I'm too lazy to explain it to you.'
3. 'I know, but if I share my secrets, you'll perceive me as being less magical / mystical / awesome' etc.

I also think that there's a real culture in paganism of writing about the theory of something - where runes came from, but not actually writing about it in practice. Like, there's no book out there - to my knowledge - which is '50 spells and the results I personally got when I used them.' Or 'great tarot reading disasters.' It's that sort of practical knowledge which matters most, and no one's talk. Bleh.

Date: 2008-05-28 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freyaw.livejournal.com
*memoried*

Date: 2008-05-29 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
That is the cutest icon like... evar.

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Date: 2008-05-28 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvenstars.livejournal.com
Thanks for the lovely pictures! Your materials look fine. It's real and nonfancy stuff, which I never had a problem with ;)

And yes, please do post about reading them.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Aw, I'm glad you like my non-fancy stuff, it's super non-fancy. *grin* I always think 'if I had more money...' but I had more money when I was working at Baines and still never wanted a fancier set of runes.

Mine are river rocks, as insane as it sounds, that's pretty damned fancy for me. *grin*

Date: 2008-05-28 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darakat-ewr.livejournal.com
Thats so cool, thank you very much for this. I learned to draw runes but never to cast them, its quite a insight.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
:D casting is really easy, and a lot of fun, so I hope - in some time when the wedding is over - you look into it because I think you'd enjoy it. :)

Date: 2008-05-28 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sidheblessed.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this, this was excellent.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Aw cheers! :D

Date: 2008-05-28 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbeech.livejournal.com
That's awesome, complete with pictures! Runes are one of about three tactile media that work for me. Everything else just sits there dead. But runes worked from the first tentative touch. Funny how that is. They are a love affair all their own, yes?
Hope you're well!

Date: 2008-05-29 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I loooove runes, I think they are a love/hate thing, or an 'indifference' thing. Okay, so that covered everything, whoops. Lol.

But yeah, I love them. They just feel great, and are so complex and fun to use. :D

Date: 2008-05-28 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloversix.livejournal.com
Teeeach meeee how to reeeead!!!!

*glomp* <3

Thanks for that! That was fascinating!!

Date: 2008-05-29 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Aww, thank you, glad you liked it!
Heh, well hopefully some reading ones will come soon. :)

Date: 2008-05-28 08:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] moonreviews
I'd be interested in another rune post :) I recently starting using them a bit too but I made a set from cardboard as there weren't any stones nearby. Next time I'm somewhere with a lot of stones I'm going to search out a few to use.

Date: 2008-05-29 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
My Grandma uses a set of wooden runes, and while I prefer stones, if you can find a good branch or twig and are crafty, you could make a set that way too. :D

Date: 2008-05-28 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] die-uberfrau.livejournal.com
Very cool. Good for giving the offering to Odin first (He likes blood), and I say if the rune mat works for you it doesn't care where it comes from. Besides which, Tacitus said that people would draw lots made of fruit-bearing twigs on a white cloth, so there you go.

I work with the 33-rune Anglo-Saxon Futhorc, which has the same 24 runes plus 9 extra, because I always preferred the 96 box of crayons as a kid and more runes is just... more runes.

I will definitely be interested in the "how to read a casting" post. It always tickles me to see how people do things.

Date: 2008-05-29 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Odin most often gets blood, the only reason he didn't get blood this time was because I offered in advance when I had a whole lot spare (I give it to my prayer tree, which seems to ration it out).

I checked with Odin, but he said I had plenty and probably wouldn't need to offer blood again until the next time I actually did a rune-casting for someone else.

33 runes sounds pretty awesome. But heaps more complex! :)

Date: 2008-05-28 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dynxsilverwolf.livejournal.com
I'd love to hear about reading them, if you're willing to do that. :)

Date: 2008-05-29 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
I think I will now, I didn't know if anyone would be interested, but a few people have put their hands up so... what the hell. :D

Date: 2008-05-29 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicanthiel.livejournal.com
I tend to use all the ones that fall, regardless of how they land. The positions as such tinge the importance and nature of the rune in question, certainly, but I feel that they were chosen for a reason (I pull 9 runes and cast, only rarely doing the full 24).

But very interesting nonetheless. And your point on casting distance is certainly very important :P

Date: 2008-05-29 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Yeah, as I explain, pulling 9 runes would be pointless for me - as I know them all by touch as well as by sight and it would be just like seeing and consciously picking runes I like for that reading. Heh.

I know that removing runes facing down is pretty traditional, or at least old-school as far as rune reading goes. But if you're drawing in the first place before casting, it does make more sense to read all of them.

Date: 2008-05-29 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dibeartach.livejournal.com
Oooooo! *bookmarks*
Yay thanks for that, I did remember your other post on runes, but wasn't it an interpretation and drawing of one of your casts, rather than an article-style? I am mad dissatisfied with my rune methods, and after the last reading, am quite convinced I'm getting a "not saying a thing until you get your act together" response, like people who get nothing from tarot if they're dabbling.
I'd definitely go for a rune interpretation one - from a Germanic/North perspective, or a more Vilturj/Wildspeak perspective?

xoxox

Date: 2008-05-29 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
To be honest, aside from references to Wildspeak gods, even my rune write ups are heavily Germanic / Norse, they still refer to the Norse gods too - so... yeah. :)

Date: 2008-05-30 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-raeya-x.livejournal.com
I would LOVE to see an entry on reading them! I love runes, but I've always felt that they should be cast rather than drawn, but 95% of published information is about drawing them, and no one seems to be able to write about how to interpret a casting. I know the principles, but not how the runes connect to each other and how to read that interplay. Though I guess it's mostly practice *blush*

Do you pour them straight out of the bag or into your hand first?

Date: 2008-05-30 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonvoice.livejournal.com
Straight out of the bag. :)
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