No detail shots today. I'll do a whole run of them once the illustration is finished. As well as a proper 'beginning / end' inking post. Hoping to have the inking stage finished in about 14 days. Will depend on how much the puppy needs! :)
I think I will be sorry once you've completed this project, because we won't be getting any more regular updates to pore* over the details in this wonderful piece. :) (I know, you're going "Eff that!". Finished, finally! Please! :D)
So it's going to be entirely shades of bronze? That will be exquisite!
*Non EFL moment: that word is odd. Pore, like pores in a membrane, not pour as in pouring water. It makes sense, you're looking closely enough to see the pores, but it's actually a little... graphic. Brought to you by my brain doing a screaming halt, and the need to check that I was "doing English right TM". Things strike me like this periodically, last week it was wondering about "disgruntled", because no one is ever "gruntled". I'll stop spamming you with random linguistic pondering now!
I try, but do not always succeed. And with all due respect, English is not the easiest language. There is much that is odd and inconsistent, that simply has to be memorized rather than working from some sort of rule. (Don't get me started on plurals, for example. Why is the plural of mouse mice, while the plural of house is houses?) Heh. I love the English language, but it's sometimes frustrating.
*nods* It is a damned difficult language to learn, even it you're native to it! If it's not one's primary language then I can understand, but the state of English education here in the States is appalling.
(Then again, I also have a Bachelor's in English, so it's a matter near and dear to my heart, possibly TOO much so!)
the state of English education here in the States is appalling
I have heard this before, but can't comment personally since I'm not in the U.S. Is it that the language is simply not taught, or is poorly taught? It's not nearly as important, but I run up against this in re: hand writing. I was taught in the older fashion that stressed legible, standardized script, and dedicated classroom time to practicing it. Consequently I *still* have a mostly-copybook hand (with a few personalized digressions for simplicity), which is clear enough that anyone can read it. I'm often startled when I see the semi-legible scribbling others sometimes produce. Not everything is digital, and sometimes it is still necessary to write things out by hand -- it might as well be quick and legible in my opinion.
Education funding has dropped dramatically in the past few decades, which makes it harder for teachers to have the resources to teach larger classes of children. Plus the humanities in general have lost a lot of funding in favor of the sciences.
A lot of what we're seeing now is kids using abbreviations from texting like "U" instead of "you" and "R" instead of "are"--in their assigned papers in English class. Many kids learn a lot of their writing skills from reading, and since more reading is done online, there's not the editing process that goes into most books.
I choked on my drink at that. I don't suppose that's an automatic failure by any chance? Because it should be. If nothing else, it's also a hindrance to understanding the language on a fundamental level. (I often rely on making internal connections -- perhaps a other people don't? It's not a question of merely being a foreign language, when I was learning my own primary tongue I can remember working things out by inference from what I already knew.)
I would hope that it is a failure! I feel bad for the teachers who have to keep correcting that, too.
So much of learning a language involves seeing what others do with it, and if kids are seeing others use improper language, then they're going to pick that up, and a lot of them will favor what they see in use versus what they're taught in class.
I have the same problem with that phrase. I keep thinking it should be "pour over the details" as in "pour one's attention over the page" but it's not.
The more you work on this piece, the more depth it gets; I want to walk into this picture. Your technique is absolutely stunning, and I can't wait to see it colored!
I'm going to have to second silverjackal's comment of being sorry when this project is completed, because we won't get any more updates on it. I love just staring at this thing and trying to find what else you may have hidden in the newer sections of this piece. It's so damned intricate and gorgeous!
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Date: 2011-09-05 03:28 pm (UTC)So it's going to be entirely shades of bronze? That will be exquisite!
*Non EFL moment: that word is odd. Pore, like pores in a membrane, not pour as in pouring water. It makes sense, you're looking closely enough to see the pores, but it's actually a little... graphic. Brought to you by my brain doing a screaming halt, and the need to check that I was "doing English right TM". Things strike me like this periodically, last week it was wondering about "disgruntled", because no one is ever "gruntled". I'll stop spamming you with random linguistic pondering now!
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Date: 2011-09-05 08:36 pm (UTC)(Then again, I also have a Bachelor's in English, so it's a matter near and dear to my heart, possibly TOO much so!)
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Date: 2011-09-05 08:48 pm (UTC)I have heard this before, but can't comment personally since I'm not in the U.S. Is it that the language is simply not taught, or is poorly taught? It's not nearly as important, but I run up against this in re: hand writing. I was taught in the older fashion that stressed legible, standardized script, and dedicated classroom time to practicing it. Consequently I *still* have a mostly-copybook hand (with a few personalized digressions for simplicity), which is clear enough that anyone can read it. I'm often startled when I see the semi-legible scribbling others sometimes produce. Not everything is digital, and sometimes it is still necessary to write things out by hand -- it might as well be quick and legible in my opinion.
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Date: 2011-09-05 08:51 pm (UTC)A lot of what we're seeing now is kids using abbreviations from texting like "U" instead of "you" and "R" instead of "are"--in their assigned papers in English class. Many kids learn a lot of their writing skills from reading, and since more reading is done online, there's not the editing process that goes into most books.
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Date: 2011-09-05 09:01 pm (UTC)I choked on my drink at that. I don't suppose that's an automatic failure by any chance? Because it should be. If nothing else, it's also a hindrance to understanding the language on a fundamental level. (I often rely on making internal connections -- perhaps a other people don't? It's not a question of merely being a foreign language, when I was learning my own primary tongue I can remember working things out by inference from what I already knew.)
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Date: 2011-09-05 09:03 pm (UTC)So much of learning a language involves seeing what others do with it, and if kids are seeing others use improper language, then they're going to pick that up, and a lot of them will favor what they see in use versus what they're taught in class.
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