I didn't say that obese people are unacceptable. I said that I feel obesity is unacceptable
Again, how is that any different than going 'I didn't say homosexuals were unacceptable, just homosexual behaviour.' It sounds more PC, but at the end of the day, it's still pretty brutal.
Besides, homosexuality is not a risk to your health.
Actually, statistically, it does slightly increase the chance of contracting HIV in Western culture. Also, those who are homosexual are more likely to (due to societal pressures) experience mental illness and be depressed / commit suicide.
While societal pressures are responsible for this, it still means that if you are homosexual, you are at a greater risk for mental illness, suicide, depression, and poor social networks at the very least.
But I want to clarify that I'm in no way saying that the obese should be ostracized in any way for being overweight, or choosing to be overweight.
When you call something 'unacceptable,' you are ostracising the behaviour, and by default, the person. When someone calls 'homosexual behaviour' unacceptable, the only way a homosexual person can really be acceptable, is if they don't voluntarily engage in that behaviour (an attitude that some Christian churches are fond of cultivating). And to be honest, I feel ostracised by those sorts of statements. I find your 'obesity is unacceptable' perhaps among the most hurtful statements I've heard about obesity for a long time. And I cop a lot of shit for the way I look.
Perhaps it's because when people openly insult me for the way I look, I know they are intentionally being mean. When someone says something having no idea just how damaging their wording can be, it is a symptom of a greater problem.
It is now okay to call obesity 'unacceptable,' well it was once okay to call a lot of other 'problematic behaviours' unacceptable too. Doesn't make it right or okay. Just means that you can do it and be completely unaware of how you're hurting others. Well, I'm not sure if it will change anything your end, but it would be remiss of me not to at least acknowledge that I - as an obese person - was hurt.
My irritation is only directed at people who promote obesity as a healthy lifestyle choice.
I think it's nice of you to point this out now, but your original statement wasn't 'obesity as a healthy lifestyle choice is unacceptable,' just 'obesity is unacceptable.' It might seem like semantics to you, but it's a big difference to an obese person like myself.
Re: Forgive my harshness
Again, how is that any different than going 'I didn't say homosexuals were unacceptable, just homosexual behaviour.' It sounds more PC, but at the end of the day, it's still pretty brutal.
Besides, homosexuality is not a risk to your health.
Actually, statistically, it does slightly increase the chance of contracting HIV in Western culture. Also, those who are homosexual are more likely to (due to societal pressures) experience mental illness and be depressed / commit suicide.
While societal pressures are responsible for this, it still means that if you are homosexual, you are at a greater risk for mental illness, suicide, depression, and poor social networks at the very least.
But I want to clarify that I'm in no way saying that the obese should be ostracized in any way for being overweight, or choosing to be overweight.
When you call something 'unacceptable,' you are ostracising the behaviour, and by default, the person. When someone calls 'homosexual behaviour' unacceptable, the only way a homosexual person can really be acceptable, is if they don't voluntarily engage in that behaviour (an attitude that some Christian churches are fond of cultivating). And to be honest, I feel ostracised by those sorts of statements. I find your 'obesity is unacceptable' perhaps among the most hurtful statements I've heard about obesity for a long time. And I cop a lot of shit for the way I look.
Perhaps it's because when people openly insult me for the way I look, I know they are intentionally being mean. When someone says something having no idea just how damaging their wording can be, it is a symptom of a greater problem.
It is now okay to call obesity 'unacceptable,' well it was once okay to call a lot of other 'problematic behaviours' unacceptable too. Doesn't make it right or okay. Just means that you can do it and be completely unaware of how you're hurting others. Well, I'm not sure if it will change anything your end, but it would be remiss of me not to at least acknowledge that I - as an obese person - was hurt.
My irritation is only directed at people who promote obesity as a healthy lifestyle choice.
I think it's nice of you to point this out now, but your original statement wasn't 'obesity as a healthy lifestyle choice is unacceptable,' just 'obesity is unacceptable.' It might seem like semantics to you, but it's a big difference to an obese person like myself.